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David Carel
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 17:17:00 -
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Tokino Kaalakiota wrote:Mittani and the rest of the "supercap blob" whiners can go cry themselves to sleep while smart individuals can make use of existing tactics to counter supercap blobs
I recommend you to look up "Welpfleet" and the distribution of supers; it would be nice if you had a clue before posting.
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David Carel
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 17:25:00 -
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Misanth wrote:Malcanis wrote:Misanth wrote:Malcanis wrote:Excellent.
Let the map burn. That's quite short-sighted. Supers will be doing (nearly) same damage as they do today. The only difference is they won't engage subcaps, and those superblobs might be more likely (than they used to) too. What differs is they might carry a subcap fleet with them. Subcap fleet can be cynoed around with the superblob, using bridges. So in essence, for blobs and powerblocs, this is no nerf. This is a nerf to smaller alliances and/or groups. Especially the removal or regular drones, which is going to make non-blob moving alot more dangerous. This game just goes more into a blob-game than ever, and looking at the map.. well it might not burn, as you say, it's more likely it'll stay stagnant than before these changes. I'm in a smaller alliance. We're pretty happy about these changes. The DD change is the big deal, with the log-off change close behind. We already have doctrine to deal with supercarriers, and the drone bay changes will only make that easier. Likewise, we have doctrine prepared to deal with titans that can't DD subcaps. if CCP actually deploy changes, we anticipate a merry winter of boat-violence amongst our neighbours. I know alot of people from your alliance since the short time I was in Pure. I considering your alliance another blobby powerbloc, fyi. Most of your "roams" is dozens/tens of people, alot of the people that used to fly ceptors now fly supers, etc. Your alliance is a perfect example of people who used to be good small scale (5-10 man) roaming pvpers, who now turned into a super-blob. Even tho yes, you're not big compared to the biggest blobs, but compared to young alliance who wants to move out to nullsec, alliance like your own will be boosted by these changes and even less likely to lose their space to younger competition. It's not like when Triumvirate used smaller blobs and harrassed Pure in their homeland, or when Pure roaming gangs did it against whoever. Nowadays smaller alliance just can't roam like we used to, and you guys, and your supers, are part of the problem. And these changes did nothing at all, to help.
You're the problem, not the blobs.
More exactly, your lack of ingenuity. |
David Carel
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 18:12:00 -
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Tokino Kaalakiota wrote:As a previous/current owner of MULTIPLE personal supercaps, I would encourage you to take your own advice, and get a clue before posting.
Challenge accepted, enjoy the decontruction of your post.
Quote:I am not referring to "welpfleet"
Earlier:
"while smart individuals can make use of existing tactics to counter supercap blobs"
So wait, Welpfleet is not an existing tactic against supercap blobs? I guess our definitions of tactic differ.
Quote:I am quite aware that your alliance currently (appears to) lack the ability to deploy any sort of supercap force.
IDC about "our lack of ability to deploy supers", this is about subcaps countering supercaps.
Quote:Welpfleet is no counter; it's just a way for goons to leverage their numbers majority in cheap ships to apply dps.
It's a pretty good counter as it severely impedes supers by neuting their cap off and thus shutting down their hardeners, allowing them to be killed pretty quickly. Even with passive hardeners, they can't jump until they have restored cap to 70%.
Quote:If you look at some of the tactics RnK have used in the past to destroy supercarrier/carrier fleets in the past you'd maybe understand what I'm saying. (They beat a FA/WIdawt supercarrier/carrier gang that more than outnumbered them in supercarriers/carriers alone, killing 1 SC and several carriers, without ANY caps/scaps of their own.)
http://rooksandkings.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=25860 has been the only SC kill on FA or WIdot by RnK I could find on their killboard. Now, let's see what we've got there:
60-70 BS shooting 6 supers, 2 dreads, 10 carriers. Nothing more than a variation of "dish out enough DPS to kill them in 15 minutes"
Hm, where's FA? No FA on related kills and no FA super has died by RnK hands either... I'm puzzled.
Oh wait, there's no advantage in numbers of the capital fielding side. Sure nice memory you've got there. Or nice naive mind, believing everything people tell you.
Yeah, I guess a person owning SEVERAL PERSONAL SUPERCAPS should have more of a clue. Unlike common folks like me who don't want to live in a space tomb, right?
(CCP, that quote limit/BBCode could not be parsed thingy is awful. Also, your forums ate my first draft :() |
David Carel
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 19:04:00 -
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Jackk Hammer wrote:you're just another goonNoob talking what you know nothing about...
stacking penalties combined with the fact that you end up with a higher tracking speed by using 3 x faction/officer tracking computers than having 3 x tracking link put on you means they are nowhere near as useful as you think.
I, too, fit my titans with Tracking Computers instead of Cap Rechargers. |
David Carel
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 19:17:00 -
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Jackk Hammer wrote:That reply to my previous post. I misquoted and cannot be arsed to find that abomination of his.
https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_kill.php?id=342709
Like that perhaps? |
David Carel
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 19:21:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:David Carel wrote:Jackk Hammer wrote:Weaselior wrote:Jackk Hammer wrote:Are goons not capable of killing a carrier putting remote tracking links on a titan? why would you put the remote tracking links on a carrier that is what the other goonNoob was saying...I guess he didn't want to say you guys couldn't kill a logi putting tracking links on a titan https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_kill.php?id=342709Like that perhaps? that was a bad fit fyi
The only PL Avatar I could find with a fit on it. Their Erebuses all have Tracking Computers but then again they don't use lasers.
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David Carel
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 19:30:00 -
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0.008 with 4x Serpentis Tracking Link, 0.009 with 2x Serpentis TC, both with Tracking Speed.
But you can't always cynoout (cap <70%), and you have reduced neut resistance. Hell yeah.
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David Carel
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 20:16:00 -
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Camar wrote:David Carel wrote:0.008 with 4x Serpentis Tracking Link, 0.009 with 2x Serpentis TC, both with Tracking Speed.
But you can't always cynoout (cap <70%), and you have reduced neut resistance. Hell yeah.
lol faction TC
Your alliance uses them all the time, at least the dead ones did. |
David Carel
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 20:18:00 -
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Akara Ito wrote:
If only Jumpf Freighters could jump as far as Supercaps and carry a lot of FBs in their cargohold to restock them between engagements.
Evelopedia wrote: Jump Freighters have a base jump range of 5 Light Years.
Motherships have a base jump range of 4 Light Years.
Titans have a base jump range of 3.5 Light Years.
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